Exodus from Christianity || Why was the Lord crucified?
Exodus from Christianity,
In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most MercifulIntroduction to the book
Jesus loves you and died for you
is a sentence we are used to hearing from missionaries all the time. So what did I do for him to die for me?
This book is the result of numerous dialogues, debates and arguments between me and Christian clerics for many years, the last of which was my meeting with a well-known Orthodox bishop. We argued about this topic and I did not find a single answer in all these dialogues, debates and arguments! Which made me write this book and I advise everyone interested in searching for the truth or specializing in this field to read every letter in it to the end and study it consciously because after understanding this evidence and proof presented in this book, your view of the Christian faith and the texts of the Bible will change greatly and you will know how they deceive the simpletons and distort words from their places to support their thoughts and beliefs!
So that We may make it a reminder for you, and a hearing ear may understand it. 12 Surah Al-Haqqah
If we do not find a single logical reason for the crucifixion and killing of God in the first place, then there is no need for anyone to be a Christian or believe in the Christian religion (Nazarene). We have argued a lot about the incarnation of God and whether there is evidence for the incarnation, and we have responded to all the alleged evidence and all the alleged evidence of the deification of Christ, and we have proven with evidence that Christ survived the crucifixion from the New and Old Testaments and the contradictions in the story of the crucifixion, and we have proven with evidence the distortion of the Gospels, but now let us make great concessions with them and consider that God was incarnated, crucified, killed, and rose again. But the question here is: Why? What is the reason? Why the cross in the first place? Why was your God killed by his creatures? And what if we do not find a single reason for his killing in reality? They say that Christ died to forgive the sin that he repented from, so was repentance alone in the Old Testament before the birth of Christ sufficient for the forgiveness of sins? So we don't need to kill God for Him to forgive sin again because He has already forgiven it once we repent! All the texts of the Old Testament, which are the origin and foundation upon which Christianity is built, confirm that we don't need to kill God at all because He forgives our sins once we repent! The Torah even states that the repentant who died in repentance would enter heaven, eternal life or the kingdom! So what are the reasons that Christians give for killing their god??
The very famous reason and the automatic response that Christians say is
that He died to remove our sins
So what sin specifically did He die to remove? First, what is the definition of sin? Sin is breaking God’s commandments by not doing what He commands or by doing what He forbids, but why did God incarnate specifically to be crucified? What was God crucified and killed to remove? Was He crucified to remove worldly punishments? Or afterlife punishments?? Worldly punishments mean that the murderer, adulterer, and thief are not held accountable or punished in this world because Christ was punished instead of them on the cross. If a murderer and bloodthirsty person stood before a judge and said to him, “I repent, O judge,” would Jesus tell him, “He loves you and died for you,” and would acquit him? He has no worldly punishment and is not punished in this world because Jesus was punished instead of him. Of course, the Christians’ answer is no, otherwise we would completely abolish the penal code in all Christian countries! The world would become chaos! And whoever establishes penal laws against criminals is violating Christianity! And they themselves reject this! Rather, they said that the punishments of the Old Testament are still the same and have not changed, and as for the crucifixion and killing of God in their belief, it is only to remove the punishments of the afterlife and not the worldly ones. So, redemption and salvation are from the punishment of the afterlife for our daily sins. So when you ask them this question, what
is the reason for killing your god? They answer with some reasons for killing their god, and I have listed all these reasons and responded to them in this book, which confirms that humanity does not need to kill their god who contradicted and violated his attributes and wronged his son and punished him for sins he did not commit in the first place and gave him a punishment of only three days instead of bearing the alleged eternal punishment!!
We will mention all the cases and reasons that they believe are reasons for killing God and we will see if there is any logical reason that calls for crucifixion of God from these alleged reasons or not??
Chapter One: Reasons for killing God in the Christian belief and the response to them
The first reason: The original sin
He died to remove Adam's inherited sin, as God cursed the whole earth because of Adam, and this curse was not removed by anyone but Christ?
The answer to this reason is from several aspects.
First, this curse was removed many times before the coming of Christ, with many evidences, for example, but not limited to:
(Genesis 8:21) And the Lord smelled a sweet savour. And the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth. And I will never again kill every living thing, as I have done.” Notice
here: I will never again curse the ground because of man .
So the curse has been removed by the Lord! Rather, the Lord blessed all of humanity after Noah’s flood, saying:
(Genesis 9:1) And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.
8 And God spoke to Noah and to his sons with him, saying,
9 “Behold, I establish my covenant with you and with your descendants after you.”
Blessing is the opposite of cursing! That means that Adam’s descendants are no longer cursed and do not need anyone to remove the curse from them or anything.
The most important thing here is if what he said to Adam (you shall surely die) is an eternal death in hell that all his children inherited, then how will Jesus remove an eternal punishment in just three days?! Is this fair?! If a criminal was sentenced to years in prison and the judge did not want to imprison the accused, so he unjustly put his son in prison instead of the criminal, is it permissible to put his son in prison for only three days instead of serving the full sentence?!
Rather, the surprise is that there is no text in the Old Testament that says that God will rise from the dead! Is it reasonable that none of the prophets of the Old Testament said that God would rise from the dead after his incarnation and crucifixion? They cite a text that has nothing to do with the resurrection from the dead:
(1 Corinthians 15:55) “O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your victory?”
Paul distorted this text after quoting from the Book of Hosea:
(Hosea 13:14) “From the power of the grave I will redeem them; from death I will save them. Where are your plagues, O death? Where is your sting, O grave? Repentance shall be hidden from my eyes.”
What is the text talking about from the beginning? It is talking about the fact that this people have become pagans and worship Baal or the calf, but God will not redeem them from being killed, but will leave them to perish.
Interpretation of Father Antonious Fikry
At the beginning of the chapter he said, “And when he sinned against Baal, he died.”
So the Lord here says that He will not redeem them from being killed in the Assyrian captivity.
Interpretation of Father Antonious Fikry
And this was fulfilled in the Assyrian captivity of the Kingdom of the Ten Tribes, that is, Israel. This captivity came upon them from the east, and this attack completely destroyed Israel, as described here, and the reason for (16) is because Samaria rebelled against its God, but this threat will be repeated again at the end of days and will destroy all their glory that they rejoiced in for accepting the Antichrist.
And the interpretation of Father Tadros Yacoub,
this hadith was literally fulfilled by the Assyrian captivity coming from the east that completely destroyed Israel and its capital, Samaria.
If this text was intended for Christ, it would be impossible for Him to be crucified and impossible for Him to redeem you from anything. Why? Because the text denies redemption and denies salvation. The text says a verse:
Remorse disappears from my eyes.
What does remorse disappear from my eyes mean? The Vandyke translation is not clear. Let us open the Life translation for the same text like this?
14. Shall I redeem them from the power of the grave? Shall I deliver them from death? Where are your plagues, O death? Where is your destruction, O grave? Mercy is hidden from my eyes.
Here is a rhetorical question: Do you believe that I will redeem them from the Assyrian captivity, from killing, and from the destruction of hell for worshipping idols? The answer is clear: Mercy is hidden from my eyes,
and so is it in the Jesuit translation:
14. Shall I redeem them from the hand of Hades and redeem them from death? Where are your plagues, O death? And where is your plague, O Hades? Mercy is hidden from my eyes,
so he said immediately after that:
(Hosea 13:16) Samaria shall be recompensed, because she has rebelled against her God. They shall fall by the sword, their children shall be dashed to pieces, and those with child shall be ripped open.
So I agree that the text is a prophecy about the Messiah, as you claim, and this means that there is no redemption or salvation, meaning that he will not die!
The other comes with Paul's utmost deception and distorts the text and makes it:
(1 Corinthians 15:55) “O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your victory?”
I challenge any Christian in the world to bring me a single clear text about the Messiah that says that he will rise from the dead! There is none!
The second text is also from Paul’s distortion:
“And that he was buried, and that he rose again on the third day according to the scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:4).
Where, according to the scriptures, will he rise from the dead?
Interpretation by Father Tadros Yacoub Malaty
The prophet Hosea refers to the resurrection of the Lord Christ on the third day (Hosea 6:2).
https://st-takla.org/…/Tafseer-Resalat-Koronthos-1__01-Chap…
Did Hosea really say that? The answer is no!
Read what Hosea said:
Hosea 6
2 After two days He will revive us; on the third day He will raise us up, and we will live before Him.
Life Translation
2. After two days He will revive us, and on the third day He will raise us up, so that we may live before Him.
The text is talking about their release from the Babylonian captivity, not about Christ at all! The text does not talk about raising Christ from the dead at all, but only about raising them up, and the meaning is metaphorical, that is, raising them from the death of sin to a life of repentance
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They also cite the text “whom they pierced” as a prophecy about the crucifixion of Jesus! Although it is logical for the prophets to talk about his “resurrection” and not his suffering, which is similar to many prophets who suffered at the hands of their people! But does the text talk about Christ?
Zechariah 12:10
“And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and of supplications; and they will look upon me whom they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for his only son, and they will be in bitterness for him as one who is in bitterness for his firstborn.
But the surprise is that this is a false and incorrect translation.
The Catholic translation says:
Zechariah 12:10: And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and of supplications, and they will look to me. But as for him whom they have pierced, they will mourn as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep for him with bitter weeping as one weeps for a firstborn. Zechariah
12:10
I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of compassion and mercy; and they will look upon him whom they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only son, and they will grieve for him as one mourns for his firstborn son.
Translation of the Good News
10 And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of compassion and mercy; and they will look upon him whom they have pierced, and will mourn for him as one mourns for an only son, and will grieve for him as one mourns for a firstborn son .
The Jesuit translation
10 And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of compassion and supplications; and they will look upon him whom they have pierced, and will mourn for him as one mourns for an only son, and will weep for him with bitter weeping as one weeps for a firstborn.
Likewise the Hebrew text according to the Jewish Chabad website says:
יוְשָׁפַכְתִּי֩ עַל־בֵּ֨ית דָּוִ֜יד וְעַ֣ל | יוֹשֵׁ֣ב יְרֽוּשָׁלַ֗םִ ר֚וּחַ חֵן֙ וְתַ֣חֲנוּנִ֔ים More information כְּמִסְפֵּד֙ More information:
10 And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of
grace and supplication; and they will look to me because of those who have been thrust through [with swords], and they shall mourn over it (the city) as one mourns over an only son and shall be in bitterness, therefore, as one is embittered over a firstborn son.
Link to the Jewish translation:
https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16216
Also, the Hebrew text and its translation according to the Jewish Safaria website says:
וְשָׁפַכְתִּי֩ עַל־בֵּּ֨ית דָּוִ֜יד וְעַ֣ל ׀ יוֹשֵׁ֣ב יְרוּשָׁלִַ֗ם ר֤וּחַ חֵן֙ וְתַ֣חנוּנִ֔ים וְהִבִּ֥יטוּ Contact Us
But I will fill the House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem with a spirit of pity and compassion; And they shall lament to Me about those who are slain, wailing over them as over a favorite son and showing bitter grief as over a first-born.
But I will fill the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem with the spirit of compassion and mercy. And they shall lament to Me (seek Me in lamentation) about those who are slain, wailing over them as over a favorite son and showing bitter grief as over a firstborn.
However, the context of the text is originally talking about a city and not a person! The verse immediately preceding it says:
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek the destruction of all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
The context is talking about the city of Jerusalem and not about a specific person
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Second: Inheriting sin is a clear injustice. What did I do to inherit a sin that I did not commit from another person “Adam, the father of mankind”? What is my fault? This principle is also mentioned in the Holy Bible and completely rejects the inheritance of sin with evidence:
Ezekiel 18 says: The father does not inherit the son's iniquity, and the son does not inherit the
father's iniquity. 19 "And you say, 'Why should not the son bear the iniquity of the father?' But the son has done what is lawful and right. He has kept all my statutes and done them, and he shall surely live.
20 The soul who sins, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and the father shall not bear the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous will be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon him.
21 But if the wicked turns from all his sins which he has committed, and keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
22 None of his transgressions which he has committed shall be mentioned against him; in his righteousness which he has done he shall live.
So the children of Adam did not inherit Adam's sin in the first place, so that He could redeem us from it. If there was a text that they interpreted to mean inheriting sin, then God would be unjust and not absolutely just, and the Bible would be contradicting these texts! When they falsely claim that all children, whether their fathers are Christians (believers) or non-believers, will go to hell forever if they are not baptized! This is a clear accusation that God is unjust! Because He will burn children without any sin they have committed!
In the book The Spirituality of the Rituals of the Sacraments in the Orthodox Church, p. 22, presented by Bishop Moussa, General Bishop, by Bishop Mattaous, Bishop and Head of the Syrian Monastery, he says:
The period of forty days for a male child and eighty for a female is in normal circumstances. However, if the newborn is afflicted with an illness and they fear that he will die, they must ask the priest father to baptize him and anoint him with myrrh even if he is one day old and under any circumstances and quickly so that he does not die without baptism and is deprived of entering and seeing the kingdom according to the saying of our Savior (John 3:3). The method is to take any person other than his mother and go with him to the church to complete the baptism in baptism. If the child dies, his family is reassured about his eternal happy destiny.
In the book The Precious Pearls in Clarifying the Religion by Saint Anba Sawirus, p. 51, he says:
Death, by disobeying Adam, reigned from Adam to Moses and over those who did not sin (Romans 5:14), because because of Adam’s sin, everyone who sins from all his descendants descends to hell, even the children who did not sin and even The prophets and righteous fathers,
every one who is born is entrusted with an unclean spirit until the day of his death, which kills him and brings him down to hell.
In the book The First Servants of the Lord by Father De Rosa, p. 203, he says:
The inheritance of sin and birth control
. Saint Augustine, with the support of Pope Gregory the Great, was the one who established the church custom that baptism is a basic condition for the salvation of souls. And that children who die before baptism are destined for hell directly. And of course, so are all pagan peoples. The churchmen did not try to find a solution for children who would go to hell without sin or for pagan peoples who had never heard of Christianity. Salvation was through the church, and they meant the Catholic Church only. The Inquisition punished anyone who doubted this by burning to death.
So what do they rely on to try to prove this unjust doctrine of children who did not commit any sin from the book? For example:
Did David inherit sin from his father according to this text?
Psa 51:
5 I have sinned and done wrong
since the day I was born
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've been out of step with you for a long time, in the wrong
since before I was born
The sin referred to here is the sin of inadvertence and not deliberate, as evidenced by the text directly preceding it, which says that he is the one who committed this mistake:
4 Against you, you only, have I sinned, and done what is evil in your sight, that you may be justified when you say, and blameless when you judge.
The entire text, without any citation, speaks about the sin that he personally committed, not the inherited sin that he did not commit!
Psalms 51
1 Have mercy on me, O God, according to your lovingkindness; according to the multitude of your compassion blot out my transgressions.
2 Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.
3 For I acknowledge my transgressions, and my sin is ever before me.
4 Against you, you only, have I sinned, and done what is evil in your sight, so that you may be justified when you say, and blameless when you judge.
5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.
6 Behold, you are well pleased with the truth inwardly, and in the secret place you make me know wisdom.
Notice that the whole talk is about the sin that he personally committed, not about the sin that he inherited and did not commit!!
If what was meant was the inherited
sin, how would Jesus himself say: “But Jesus called them to him and said, ‘Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for of such is the kingdom of God.’” (Luke 18:16).
Notice here that Jesus confirms that if the children die (without baptism and without accepting the Christian faith), they will enter the kingdom! This certainly means that this text spoken by the Prophet David is not talking at all about an inherited sin, but rather about the mistake that he himself committed! As evidence that children will enter the kingdom! How will they enter the kingdom if they inherit the alleged original sin?!
There is no doubt that all the children of Adam, even the prophets, fall into sins of omission, as Jesus himself said:
(Matthew 19:17) And he said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except one, that is, God. But if you wish to enter life, keep the commandments."
And as the Prophet Muhammad used to ask forgiveness for his sins of omission, not intentional ones, from which all the prophets were protected.
What proves this is the English translation of the text, which says:
Good News Translation
5. I have been evil from the day I was born; from the time I was conceived, I have been sinful.
I have been evil since I was born, from the time I imagined (my imagination) I was guilty.
What is noticeable here is his saying: ((Since I was born I have been evil)) and the word evil means ((doing evil)) and it is obvious that children do not do evil! The text does not speak about an inherited sin but about ((doing evil)) and as I mentioned the evil intended here is the sins of inadvertence and not deliberate.
So if what is meant is that sin is inherited, then the book is contradictory because it says openly that sin is not inherited from the father to the son:
(Ezekiel 18:20) The soul who sins, it will die. The son will not bear the iniquity of the father, and the father will not bear the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous will be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon him.
The second text that they use as evidence for the inheritance of sin:
“You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me” (Deuteronomy 5:9).
But this text does not mean inheriting sin, but rather it means that if the children commit the same sin as their fathers by worshipping idols, God will punish them also with the same punishment with which He punished their fathers. The evidence is:
The Book of Biblical Criticism: Schools of Criticism, Skepticism, and Responses to Them (The Old Testament of the Bible) - A. Helmy El-Qums Yaqoub
853- How does God say about Himself, “I will visit the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generation” (Deut. 5:9), so what is the sin of the children and grandchildren..?! Doesn’t this contradict what is stated in the Book of Ezekiel, “The soul that sins shall die… The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, nor shall the father bear the iniquity of the son” (Ezekiel 18:20) and also what is stated in the Book of Micah, “Who is a God like you, who pardons iniquity and forgives the transgression of the remnant of his inheritance? He does not reserve his anger forever, for he delights in mercy” (Micah 7:18)? (1)
A: 1- This question has been answered in detail previously, and it has been clarified that the children who bear the iniquity of their fathers are the transgressors who reject the divine commandments, and this is what the Book of Deuteronomy has made completely clear. When we read the full text, we find that God has forbidden prostrating to statues and worshipping idols, saying, “For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me” (Deuteronomy 5:9). His saying, “of those who hate me” emphasizes the condition of the continuation of the punishment. It is the continuation of the behavior of the sons in the sins of their fathers,
and also in the interpretation of Father Tadros Yacoub:
If the Prophet Moses testifies that God visits the sins of the fathers in the sons, yet in the same book he confirms that the father does not die for the sin of his son or vice versa (Deut. 24:16), how? Saint John Chrysostom answers: [The first text concerns the sons who complete the measure of their fathers and become worse than them (57)].
So this text also does not indicate the inheritance of sin completely!
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As for the second reason for which Jesus died according to what they say: To remove the consequences of the sin that Adam committed, such as the corrupt nature that we inherited from Adam and that the woman began to give birth with difficulty and her desire is for her husband and so on?
This is illogical because we still commit sin today! Everyone has gone astray and become corrupt and falls short of the glory of God, even priests commit adultery while caught in the act, and our nature is still corrupt, as they say, and the same consequences still exist. Women still give birth in pain and long for their husbands, and men work and get tired to eat and feed their wives!
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The third reason: To remove our daily sins that we commit. But wait, what is meant by our daily sins?
Human sins are of two types:
Either sins that you repented from and turned away from and did not return to them again, meaning you offered sincere repentance, or sins that you did not repent from and you still practice them! So why was Christ crucified? To remove which of these two types??
If I said that I was crucified to remove the sin that I did not repent of, then this means that I will kill everyone on the face of the earth and commit adultery with all the women of the earth and kill them and kill myself and not repent for that and Jesus will be punished in my place! And in this way it would be a purely satanic doctrine! And this is of course not true because it contradicts texts such as:
(Luke 13:3) No!
I tell you, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. (Luke 13:5) No! I tell you, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.
(1 Corinthians 6:9) Or do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God?
The unjust, the adulterer, the homosexual, the immoral, and the slanderer, if he does not repent, will not enter the kingdom, even if he believes in the crucifixion of Christ!!
Even when we cite this text against them:
(Matthew 21:31) Which of the two did the will of the Father? They said to him, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you, the tax collectors and the adulterers enter the kingdom of God before you.”
They say, meaning those who repent from adultery
So there is only one reason left here: He was crucified to remove the sin that we had already repented of!! They claim that no matter how much you repent of sin, it will not be forgiven except by the shedding of blood! They cite as evidence Paul’s saying:
(Hebrews 9:22) And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness!
But this is not true at all. Why? Because since the Old Testament before the coming of Jesus and up until the New Testament before the crucifixion, was it merely repentance alone without the shedding of blood that forgiveness occurs? Or as Paul claims, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness? Let us
first see that since the Old Testament, not only did God forgive the repentant, but He also brought him into the Kingdom:
“And our brothers endured suffering for a while, and they obtained eternal life, and they are in the covenant of God. But as for you, the punishment you deserve in your pride will come upon you by the judgment of God.” (2 Macc 7:36).
Eternal life in the Old Testament without crucifixion and without sorrow! What is the benefit of crucifixion?!
The entry of the righteous into heaven before crucifixion without redemption or bloodshed .
Genesis
5:24 And Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him.
Hebrews 11
5 By faith Enoch was translated so that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God had translated him. For before his translation he had a good testimony, that he pleased God.
6 Now without faith it is impossible to please him, for he who would come to God must believe that he exists and that he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him.
Tadros Yacoub Malti’s interpretation:
The scholar Tertullian says [98] “Enoch (Gen. 5:24, Heb. 11:5) and also Elijah (2 Kings 2:11) passed away without tasting death.
Anthony’s interpretation: Think of Revelation 11.
Elijah and Enoch did not die yet, but were caught up alive to heaven.
The body of Moses did not descend into hell
(Epistle of Jude 1:9). But when Michael the archangel disputed with the devil, arguing about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a slanderous sentence, but said, ‘The Lord rebuke you!’
The Jews also believe that Ezra ascended to heaven, and this statement was mentioned in the (Jewish Encyclopedia) under the title “ "Ascension" on this link in the first paragraph:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/1885-ascension
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Second: Is it true, as Paul claims, that without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness? Or was repentance alone sufficient for the forgiveness of sins without crucifixion and they do not grieve?
Psalms 32
1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord does not impute sin, and in whose spirit is no deceit.
5 I confess my sin to you, and I do not cover up my iniquity. I said, "I will confess my transgression to the Lord," and you forgave the iniquity of My sin. Selah.
6 Therefore let every godly person pray to you in a time when he finds you. When the flood of great waters comes, it will not reach him.
11 Be glad in the Lord and rejoice, O righteous ones; shout for joy, all you upright in heart.
Sirach 35
1 He who keeps the law has offered many sacrifices.
2 He who keeps the commandments has offered the sacrifice of salvation.
3 He who turns away from iniquity has offered the sin offering and has made atonement for his sins.
4 He who offers fine flour has given thanks, and he who gives alms has offered a sacrifice of thanksgiving.
5 It pleases the Lord to forsake evil, and to turn from iniquity is an atonement for sins,
24 so that he may repay a man according to his deeds, and render to men according to their deeds, according to their intentions.
Ezekiel 18:27
But if the wicked turns from the wickedness that he has done, and does what is lawful and right, he shall save his soul.
28 If he considers and turns from all his transgressions that he has committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
He saves himself and does not need anyone to save him! The life that he lives does not die. Here the intended life is life in the afterlife, and the intended death is eternal spiritual death in hell. If he repents, he will not die a spiritual death, meaning he will not enter hell!
Numbers 14
19 “Forgive the iniquity of this people according to the greatness of your grace, just as you have forgiven this people from Egypt even now.”
20 Then the LORD said, “I have forgiven according to your word.
27 “How long shall I forgive this wicked congregation that grumbles against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me.
Ezekiel 33
10 “And you, son of man, speak to the house of Israel and say, ‘You speak thus, saying, “Our transgressions and our sins are upon us, and because of them we are doomed; how then shall we live?”
11 “Say to them, ‘As I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Return, return from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?
12 And you, son of man, say to your people: The righteousness of the righteous will not deliver him in the day of his transgression, nor will the wicked stumble in his wickedness in the day that he turns from his wickedness, nor can the righteous live in his righteousness in the day of his sin.
13 When I say to the righteous, ‘You will surely live,’ and he trusts in his righteousness and commits iniquity, all his righteousness will not be remembered, but he will die for the iniquity that he has committed.
14 And when I say to the wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ But if he turns from his sin and does what is lawful and right,
15 if the wicked restores the pledge and makes good what he robbed, and walks in the statutes of life without committing iniquity, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
16 No sin that he has committed shall be remembered against him; he has done what is lawful and right, and he shall surely live.
17 Yet the children of your people say, “The way of the Lord is not equal,” but their way is not equal.
18 When a righteous person turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die in it.
19 When the wicked turns from his wickedness, and does what is right and true, he shall live by them.
20 Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ I will judge every one of you according to his ways, O house of Israel.”
Jeremiah the prophet: “For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more” (Jeremiah 31:34). Micah the prophet says: “And all their sins will be cast into the depths of the sea” (Micah 7:19).
“Now a great multitude of the people, from Ephraim, Manasseh, Issachar, and Zebulun, did not purify themselves, but ate the Passover contrary to what was written. Then Hezekiah prayed for them, saying, ‘The Lord, who is good, forgive everyone who sets his heart to seek the Lord, the God of his fathers, even though he was not in the state of purity required for the sanctuary.’ So
the Lord heard Hezekiah and spared the people.” (2 Chronicles 30:18-20)
Isaiah 6
6 Then one of the seraphims flew to me, holding a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar.
7 And he touched my mouth with it and said, “Behold, this has touched your lips; your iniquity is taken away, and your sin is purged.”
Rather, by simply giving alms to the poor, sins are forgiven without shedding any blood:
“Part your sins with righteousness, and your iniquities with mercy to the poor” (Daniel 4:27).
Rather, sin is forgiven with mercy to the poor, not by shedding blood.
Without shedding blood, if you give alms with your money to the poor, your sin is completely forgiven:
“Water quenches a blazing fire, and almsgiving expiates sins” (Joshua 3:33)
. “The Lord is gracious and compassionate, forgiving sins and saving in the day of trouble” (Sirach 2:13).
Sirach 2:28
So if you make supplication, your sins will be
blotted out. So, mere almsgiving completely blot out sins after repentance, without shedding blood. God forgives sin if a person repents, as we have proven:
Isaiah 55 says:
7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts, And let him return to the LORD, and He will have mercy on him, and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.
Notice, let him return to the LORD ((and He will have mercy on him)) and forgive him! Without shedding blood?? Yes, without shedding blood!!
Rather, there is no inheritance of sin at all because many did not commit sin at all, such as Levi, for example:
Malachi 2:
4 “You shall know that I sent you this commandment, because My covenant was with Levi,” says the Lord of hosts.
5 “My covenant was with him of life and peace, and I gave them to him for fear. So he feared Me, and he was terrified at My name.”
6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips. He walked with me in peace and uprightness, and turned many from iniquity.
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From the New Testament Without the shedding of blood, forgiveness occurs:
Christ confirms in the New Testament before the alleged crucifixion, saying that forgiveness of sin occurs without the shedding of any blood:
Mark 3 says:
28 Truly I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and the blasphemies with which they blaspheme.
29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal condemnation.
Matthew 9:
5 Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise and walk?’
Why wasn’t this said to Adam instead of the story of redemption and crucifixion?
John the Baptist “John was baptizing in the wilderness, and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.” (Mark 1:4). John baptizes without shedding any blood, and before the alleged crucifixion for the forgiveness of sins,
do we believe Paul or John the Baptist?
Without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness!" (Hebrews 9:22).
But John has another opinion!
"John was baptizing in the wilderness, and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. (Mark 1:4).
John baptizes without shedding any blood, oh! And before the alleged crucifixion for the forgiveness of sins, it is very normal, so why did he kill Jesus then?
Before the crucifixion, Jesus declared that salvation had already been accomplished for Zacchaeus the sinful tax collector who gave his money as alms to the poor without shedding any blood:
Luke 19
:8 Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I will give to the poor; and if I have defrauded anyone, I restore it fourfold.”
9 Then Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham.” Here he says salvation
has come, a past tense verb, not one that will not happen in the future, on the note! No, salvation actually happened before the alleged crucifixion without shedding even a single drop of blood!!
9And he told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself: God, I thank you that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess. 13But the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, “God, be merciful to me a sinner. 14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other, for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
How did God forgive the man after he repented without shedding any blood?
Rather, Jesus says a text that completely destroys the doctrine of crucifixion:
Al-Fandik [Jn. 15.22] [<<If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin>>. But now they have no excuse for their sin.]
If Jesus had not come, the Jews would not have had any sin at all. So why did you come to hold them accountable?
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As for the animal sacrifices in the Old Testament, they were not a ransom for deliberate sin, but rather for the unintentional sin that man fell into against his will or that he could return and correct, as we will prove.
But first, we must pay attention to a very important note: What is the law of sacrifice that the Lord legislated for the Jews?
First: Who offers the sacrifice?
A: The priest is the one who offers the sacrifice, but Jesus, we find that the Romans were the ones who offered him.
Second: Where was the sacrifice offered?
A: The sacrifice was offered in the Holy of Holies in the temple, but Jesus was crucified on Mount Golgotha.
Third: How is the sacrifice acceptable to the Lord?
The acceptable sacrifice to the Lord
: “The blind,
the broken, the maimed, the one with a sore, the mangy, or the one with a fever
, you shall not offer these to the Lord, nor shall you offer any of them as an offering by fire on the altar to the Lord.” (Leviticus 22:22)
As for Jesus, he was circumcised and was wounded from the effects of torture, so he was more prone to fever and was wounded, so the conditions did not apply to him.
Fourth: Is the sacrifice animal or human?
God fought the idea of offering human sacrifices and only pagans offered human sacrifices,
so the conclusion is that Jesus was a pagan sacrifice because the Romans were the ones who offered him and he was outside the temple and he was a human sacrifice, so Jesus fits the concept of pagan sacrifice,
but more importantly, is Jesus really the great sacrifice that came to cancel animal sacrifices and replace them? Or did animal sacrifices continue even after the alleged crucifixion?
First: Jesus commands sacrifices very normally in the New Testament:
Matthew 5:21
“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.
22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ will be in danger of the council, and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ will be in danger of hell fire.
23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you,
24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.
That is, he did not command the sacrifices to stop! If he were the great sacrifice that abolished the sacrifices, how could he command the sacrifices and offerings to be offered even after his arrival?
Therefore, even after the crucifixion and ascension of Christ to heaven, Christians continued to offer sacrifices. The evidence is:
(Acts 21:24) Take these and purify yourself with them, and pay for them, that they may shave their heads. Then all will know that none of these things have been reported concerning you, but that you also walk, keeping the law.
Secondly: The evidence is that these sacrifices were not for intentional sins, but only for sins of omission:
The sacrifices were for unintentional mistakes of omission in all cases, except for mistakes that you could return to their owners or compensate for.
Like this text in Leviticus 19:20 where it speaks about the female slave owned by a master and not about any free woman, as evidenced by the fact that the Prophet David did not offer a sacrifice when he committed adultery with the wife of Uriah the Hittite. Therefore, the sin offering is not to forgive sin at all, but rather to compensate the owner of the slave for the harm he caused him, as Tadros Yacoub Malati mentioned in his interpretation when he defined the difference between the sin offering and the trespass offering,
as there is no atonement for deliberate sins:
Psalms 51:16
For you do not delight in sacrifice, else I would offer it; you do not accept a burnt offering.
Leviticus 4
1 And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying:
2 “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: If a person sins unintentionally in any of the commandments of the LORD, which are not to be done, and does one of them:
3 If the anointed priest sins to bring about the iniquity of the people, then he shall offer for his sin which he has sinned a young bull without blemish to the LORD as a sin offering.
22 “If a prince sins and unintentionally does any of the things the Lord his God commands which should not be done, and is guilty,
23 and it is brought to his knowledge of the sin that he has sinned, he shall bring as his offering a male goat without blemish.
27 “If a commoner of the land sins unintentionally by doing any of the things the Lord commands which should not be done, and is guilty,
28 and it is brought to his knowledge of the sin that he has sinned, he shall bring as his offering a female goat without blemish for the sin that he has sinned.
Sin Offering by Mistake
Say to the children of Israel: If anyone sins by mistake in any of the things which the LORD has commanded not to be done, he shall offer for his sin which he has committed a bull from the herd as a sacrifice for
the congregation .
And if the whole congregation of the children of Israel sins by mistake, they shall offer to
the LORD a bull from the herd as a sin offering.
And if a leader sins and does by mistake any of the things which the LORD has commanded not to be done and is guilty, he shall bring for his offering a male goat without blemish.
And if any of the common people sins unintentionally,
let him bring as his offering a goat without blemish.
So the sacrifices were for unintentional sins, not intentional ones. And it was not the only way by which sin was forgiven, but as we have proven, merely true repentance forgives sin, and merely giving charity and mercy to the poor forgives sin!
And this is what the Christian interpretation itself says: The sacrifices were for unintentional sins only, as confessed by Christians themselves:
Dictionary of Church Terms | Meanings of Terms | The meaning of the word
sin
. Sin can either be known or unknown, willfully or unwillingly. And all the sacrifices of the Old Testament only forgive the sin of unintentionality, while the punishment for intentional sin, which was forbidden by the Law, was death.
And in the interpretation of Father Tadros Yacoub Malaty, he says, defining the concept of sacrifices in the Old Testament:
1. Introduction to the sin offering:
First: He reveals the purpose of this sacrifice by saying: “If a soul sins unintentionally,” it is a sacrifice offered on behalf of sinners who fall due to weakness, ignorance, or forgetfulness in one of the prohibitions, disobeying the Lord’s orders and commandments, but not out of stubbornness or deliberate resistance. That is, intentional sins, such as murder or adultery, do not have a sacrifice for forgiveness at all! Except for some sins that can be corrected and returned to their owners, but intentional sins that cannot be returned to their owners, there is no sacrifice to atone for them except repentance from them and alms, as we have proven. In addition, they used to eat these sacrifices after they were slaughtered, meaning that it is not God who eats them, for example, and His anger goes away as soon as He sees the blood! No,
God Almighty said: “Neither their meat nor their blood reaches God, but your piety reaches Him.”
This is confirmed by the fact that the sacrifices were not only animal sacrifices originally, but even flour. Does flour contain blood?
“And when anyone offers an offering as a grain offering to the Lord, his offering shall be of fine flour. He shall pour oil on it and put frankincense on it.” (Leviticus 2:1).
“And he shall take from it with his handful some of the flour of the grain offering, and its oil, and all the frankincense that is on the grain offering, and shall burn it on the altar as a sweet savour, as a memorial to the Lord.” (Leviticus 6:15).
“For I desire mercy, and not sacrifice, and the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings.” (Hosea 6:6).
“If you knew what this means, ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice,’ you would not condemn the innocent!” (Matthew 12:7).
Paul himself confirms this to answer himself, saying:
(Hebrews 10:4) For it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away sins.
That is, do not remove the sins of intentionality.
Numbers 15:22
“And if you are unaware and do not do all these commandments which the Lord spoke to Moses,
24 then if it is done secretly from the eyes of the congregation by mistake, then the whole congregation shall offer one young bull as a burnt offering, for a sweet savour to the Lord, with its grain offering and its drink offering according to the custom, and one male goat as a sin offering.
25 Then the priest shall make atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and they shall be forgiven, because it was an error. And they shall bring their offering, an offering made by fire to the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD for their error,
26 then all the congregation of the children of Israel shall be forgiven, and the stranger who sojourns among them, because it was an error for all the people.
27 “If one person sins unintentionally, he shall offer
a male goat a year old as a sin offering. 28 Then the priest shall make atonement for the person who sinned unintentionally before the Lord to make atonement for him, and he shall be forgiven. 29
For the native among the people of Israel and for the stranger who sojourns among them, there shall be one law for him who did it unintentionally.
30 But the soul that does with a high hand, whether native or foreign, despises the LORD. That soul shall be cut off from among his people,
31 because he has despised the word of the LORD and broken his commandment. That soul shall surely be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.
32 While the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day.
33 Those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole congregation.
34 They put him in custody, because it had not been announced what would be done to him.
35 Then the LORD said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death. 36 So the whole congregation brought
him out of the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died, just as the Lord had commanded Moses.
That is why Paul said that the punishment for intentional sin was death, not sacrifice:
(Hebrews 10:28) Whoever has broken the law of Moses shall die without mercy on the witness of two or three witnesses.
(Leviticus 16:29) “And it shall be a perpetual statute for you: In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and you shall do no work, whether the native-born or the stranger who sojourns among you.
30 For on this day atonement shall be made for you, to cleanse you; from all your sins before the Lord you shall be clean.”
This text has been explained in previous texts that what is meant is sins of omission
, but the question that arises here is:
Did animal sacrifices end after the crucifixion of Christ?
We read the thunderbolt:
Paul and the disciples were still offering sacrifices and offerings after the alleged crucifixion after Christ:
Acts 21:26
Then Paul took the men the next day, purified himself with them, and went into the temple, declaring that the days of purification were complete, until a gift was offered for each one of them.
So animal sacrifices still existed even after the alleged crucifixion!
Did Jesus abolish the sacrifices or offerings or did he order them??
Matthew 5:23
If you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you,
24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.
This means that the doctrine of crucifixion, redemption, and the abolition of sacrifices has nothing to do with Christ at all!!
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But this sacrifice was eaten and distributed to the poor as alms:
Leviticus 19:
6 On the day you slaughter it it may be eaten, and on the next day it may be eaten. And the surplus until the third day will be burned in the fire.
This is the real reason for forgiveness, that you give charity to the poor, and charity makes God forgive the sin after repentance for it:
Allah the Almighty said: “Neither their meat nor their blood reaches Allah, but what reaches Him is your piety.
” Surah Al-Hajj 37
(Hebrews 9:22) And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness!
But this is not true at all. Why? Because since the Old Testament before the coming of Jesus and up until the New Testament before the crucifixion, was it merely repentance alone without the shedding of blood that forgiveness occurs? Or as Paul claims, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness? Let us
first see that since the Old Testament, not only did God forgive the repentant, but He also brought him into the Kingdom:
“And our brothers endured suffering for a while, and they obtained eternal life, and they are in the covenant of God. But as for you, the punishment you deserve in your pride will come upon you by the judgment of God.” (2 Macc 7:36).
Eternal life in the Old Testament without crucifixion and without sorrow! What is the benefit of crucifixion?!
The entry of the righteous into heaven before crucifixion without redemption or bloodshed .
Genesis
5:24 And Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him.
Hebrews 11
5 By faith Enoch was translated so that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God had translated him. For before his translation he had a good testimony, that he pleased God.
6 Now without faith it is impossible to please him, for he who would come to God must believe that he exists and that he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him.
Tadros Yacoub Malti’s interpretation:
The scholar Tertullian says [98] “Enoch (Gen. 5:24, Heb. 11:5) and also Elijah (2 Kings 2:11) passed away without tasting death.
Anthony’s interpretation: Think of Revelation 11.
Elijah and Enoch did not die yet, but were caught up alive to heaven.
The body of Moses did not descend into hell
(Epistle of Jude 1:9). But when Michael the archangel disputed with the devil, arguing about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a slanderous sentence, but said, ‘The Lord rebuke you!’
The Jews also believe that Ezra ascended to heaven, and this statement was mentioned in the (Jewish Encyclopedia) under the title “ "Ascension" on this link in the first paragraph:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/1885-ascension
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Second: Is it true, as Paul claims, that without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness? Or was repentance alone sufficient for the forgiveness of sins without crucifixion and they do not grieve?
Psalms 32
1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord does not impute sin, and in whose spirit is no deceit.
5 I confess my sin to you, and I do not cover up my iniquity. I said, "I will confess my transgression to the Lord," and you forgave the iniquity of My sin. Selah.
6 Therefore let every godly person pray to you in a time when he finds you. When the flood of great waters comes, it will not reach him.
11 Be glad in the Lord and rejoice, O righteous ones; shout for joy, all you upright in heart.
Sirach 35
1 He who keeps the law has offered many sacrifices.
2 He who keeps the commandments has offered the sacrifice of salvation.
3 He who turns away from iniquity has offered the sin offering and has made atonement for his sins.
4 He who offers fine flour has given thanks, and he who gives alms has offered a sacrifice of thanksgiving.
5 It pleases the Lord to forsake evil, and to turn from iniquity is an atonement for sins,
24 so that he may repay a man according to his deeds, and render to men according to their deeds, according to their intentions.
Ezekiel 18:27
But if the wicked turns from the wickedness that he has done, and does what is lawful and right, he shall save his soul.
28 If he considers and turns from all his transgressions that he has committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
He saves himself and does not need anyone to save him! The life that he lives does not die. Here the intended life is life in the afterlife, and the intended death is eternal spiritual death in hell. If he repents, he will not die a spiritual death, meaning he will not enter hell!
Numbers 14
19 “Forgive the iniquity of this people according to the greatness of your grace, just as you have forgiven this people from Egypt even now.”
20 Then the LORD said, “I have forgiven according to your word.
27 “How long shall I forgive this wicked congregation that grumbles against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me.
Ezekiel 33
10 “And you, son of man, speak to the house of Israel and say, ‘You speak thus, saying, “Our transgressions and our sins are upon us, and because of them we are doomed; how then shall we live?”
11 “Say to them, ‘As I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Return, return from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?
12 And you, son of man, say to your people: The righteousness of the righteous will not deliver him in the day of his transgression, nor will the wicked stumble in his wickedness in the day that he turns from his wickedness, nor can the righteous live in his righteousness in the day of his sin.
13 When I say to the righteous, ‘You will surely live,’ and he trusts in his righteousness and commits iniquity, all his righteousness will not be remembered, but he will die for the iniquity that he has committed.
14 And when I say to the wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ But if he turns from his sin and does what is lawful and right,
15 if the wicked restores the pledge and makes good what he robbed, and walks in the statutes of life without committing iniquity, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
16 No sin that he has committed shall be remembered against him; he has done what is lawful and right, and he shall surely live.
17 Yet the children of your people say, “The way of the Lord is not equal,” but their way is not equal.
18 When a righteous person turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die in it.
19 When the wicked turns from his wickedness, and does what is right and true, he shall live by them.
20 Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ I will judge every one of you according to his ways, O house of Israel.”
Jeremiah the prophet: “For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more” (Jeremiah 31:34). Micah the prophet says: “And all their sins will be cast into the depths of the sea” (Micah 7:19).
“Now a great multitude of the people, from Ephraim, Manasseh, Issachar, and Zebulun, did not purify themselves, but ate the Passover contrary to what was written. Then Hezekiah prayed for them, saying, ‘The Lord, who is good, forgive everyone who sets his heart to seek the Lord, the God of his fathers, even though he was not in the state of purity required for the sanctuary.’ So
the Lord heard Hezekiah and spared the people.” (2 Chronicles 30:18-20)
Isaiah 6
6 Then one of the seraphims flew to me, holding a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar.
7 And he touched my mouth with it and said, “Behold, this has touched your lips; your iniquity is taken away, and your sin is purged.”
Rather, by simply giving alms to the poor, sins are forgiven without shedding any blood:
“Part your sins with righteousness, and your iniquities with mercy to the poor” (Daniel 4:27).
Rather, sin is forgiven with mercy to the poor, not by shedding blood.
Without shedding blood, if you give alms with your money to the poor, your sin is completely forgiven:
“Water quenches a blazing fire, and almsgiving expiates sins” (Joshua 3:33)
. “The Lord is gracious and compassionate, forgiving sins and saving in the day of trouble” (Sirach 2:13).
Sirach 2:28
So if you make supplication, your sins will be
blotted out. So, mere almsgiving completely blot out sins after repentance, without shedding blood. God forgives sin if a person repents, as we have proven:
Isaiah 55 says:
7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts, And let him return to the LORD, and He will have mercy on him, and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.
Notice, let him return to the LORD ((and He will have mercy on him)) and forgive him! Without shedding blood?? Yes, without shedding blood!!
Rather, there is no inheritance of sin at all because many did not commit sin at all, such as Levi, for example:
Malachi 2:
4 “You shall know that I sent you this commandment, because My covenant was with Levi,” says the Lord of hosts.
5 “My covenant was with him of life and peace, and I gave them to him for fear. So he feared Me, and he was terrified at My name.”
6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips. He walked with me in peace and uprightness, and turned many from iniquity.
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From the New Testament Without the shedding of blood, forgiveness occurs:
Christ confirms in the New Testament before the alleged crucifixion, saying that forgiveness of sin occurs without the shedding of any blood:
Mark 3 says:
28 Truly I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and the blasphemies with which they blaspheme.
29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal condemnation.
Matthew 9:
5 Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise and walk?’
Why wasn’t this said to Adam instead of the story of redemption and crucifixion?
John the Baptist “John was baptizing in the wilderness, and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.” (Mark 1:4). John baptizes without shedding any blood, and before the alleged crucifixion for the forgiveness of sins,
do we believe Paul or John the Baptist?
Without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness!" (Hebrews 9:22).
But John has another opinion!
"John was baptizing in the wilderness, and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. (Mark 1:4).
John baptizes without shedding any blood, oh! And before the alleged crucifixion for the forgiveness of sins, it is very normal, so why did he kill Jesus then?
Before the crucifixion, Jesus declared that salvation had already been accomplished for Zacchaeus the sinful tax collector who gave his money as alms to the poor without shedding any blood:
Luke 19
:8 Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I will give to the poor; and if I have defrauded anyone, I restore it fourfold.”
9 Then Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham.” Here he says salvation
has come, a past tense verb, not one that will not happen in the future, on the note! No, salvation actually happened before the alleged crucifixion without shedding even a single drop of blood!!
9And he told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself: God, I thank you that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess. 13But the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, “God, be merciful to me a sinner. 14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other, for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
How did God forgive the man after he repented without shedding any blood?
Rather, Jesus says a text that completely destroys the doctrine of crucifixion:
Al-Fandik [Jn. 15.22] [<<If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin>>. But now they have no excuse for their sin.]
If Jesus had not come, the Jews would not have had any sin at all. So why did you come to hold them accountable?
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As for the animal sacrifices in the Old Testament, they were not a ransom for deliberate sin, but rather for the unintentional sin that man fell into against his will or that he could return and correct, as we will prove.
But first, we must pay attention to a very important note: What is the law of sacrifice that the Lord legislated for the Jews?
First: Who offers the sacrifice?
A: The priest is the one who offers the sacrifice, but Jesus, we find that the Romans were the ones who offered him.
Second: Where was the sacrifice offered?
A: The sacrifice was offered in the Holy of Holies in the temple, but Jesus was crucified on Mount Golgotha.
Third: How is the sacrifice acceptable to the Lord?
The acceptable sacrifice to the Lord
: “The blind,
the broken, the maimed, the one with a sore, the mangy, or the one with a fever
, you shall not offer these to the Lord, nor shall you offer any of them as an offering by fire on the altar to the Lord.” (Leviticus 22:22)
As for Jesus, he was circumcised and was wounded from the effects of torture, so he was more prone to fever and was wounded, so the conditions did not apply to him.
Fourth: Is the sacrifice animal or human?
God fought the idea of offering human sacrifices and only pagans offered human sacrifices,
so the conclusion is that Jesus was a pagan sacrifice because the Romans were the ones who offered him and he was outside the temple and he was a human sacrifice, so Jesus fits the concept of pagan sacrifice,
but more importantly, is Jesus really the great sacrifice that came to cancel animal sacrifices and replace them? Or did animal sacrifices continue even after the alleged crucifixion?
First: Jesus commands sacrifices very normally in the New Testament:
Matthew 5:21
“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.
22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ will be in danger of the council, and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ will be in danger of hell fire.
23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you,
24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.
That is, he did not command the sacrifices to stop! If he were the great sacrifice that abolished the sacrifices, how could he command the sacrifices and offerings to be offered even after his arrival?
Therefore, even after the crucifixion and ascension of Christ to heaven, Christians continued to offer sacrifices. The evidence is:
(Acts 21:24) Take these and purify yourself with them, and pay for them, that they may shave their heads. Then all will know that none of these things have been reported concerning you, but that you also walk, keeping the law.
Secondly: The evidence is that these sacrifices were not for intentional sins, but only for sins of omission:
The sacrifices were for unintentional mistakes of omission in all cases, except for mistakes that you could return to their owners or compensate for.
Like this text in Leviticus 19:20 where it speaks about the female slave owned by a master and not about any free woman, as evidenced by the fact that the Prophet David did not offer a sacrifice when he committed adultery with the wife of Uriah the Hittite. Therefore, the sin offering is not to forgive sin at all, but rather to compensate the owner of the slave for the harm he caused him, as Tadros Yacoub Malati mentioned in his interpretation when he defined the difference between the sin offering and the trespass offering,
as there is no atonement for deliberate sins:
Psalms 51:16
For you do not delight in sacrifice, else I would offer it; you do not accept a burnt offering.
Leviticus 4
1 And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying:
2 “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: If a person sins unintentionally in any of the commandments of the LORD, which are not to be done, and does one of them:
3 If the anointed priest sins to bring about the iniquity of the people, then he shall offer for his sin which he has sinned a young bull without blemish to the LORD as a sin offering.
22 “If a prince sins and unintentionally does any of the things the Lord his God commands which should not be done, and is guilty,
23 and it is brought to his knowledge of the sin that he has sinned, he shall bring as his offering a male goat without blemish.
27 “If a commoner of the land sins unintentionally by doing any of the things the Lord commands which should not be done, and is guilty,
28 and it is brought to his knowledge of the sin that he has sinned, he shall bring as his offering a female goat without blemish for the sin that he has sinned.
Sin Offering by Mistake
Say to the children of Israel: If anyone sins by mistake in any of the things which the LORD has commanded not to be done, he shall offer for his sin which he has committed a bull from the herd as a sacrifice for
the congregation .
And if the whole congregation of the children of Israel sins by mistake, they shall offer to
the LORD a bull from the herd as a sin offering.
And if a leader sins and does by mistake any of the things which the LORD has commanded not to be done and is guilty, he shall bring for his offering a male goat without blemish.
And if any of the common people sins unintentionally,
let him bring as his offering a goat without blemish.
So the sacrifices were for unintentional sins, not intentional ones. And it was not the only way by which sin was forgiven, but as we have proven, merely true repentance forgives sin, and merely giving charity and mercy to the poor forgives sin!
And this is what the Christian interpretation itself says: The sacrifices were for unintentional sins only, as confessed by Christians themselves:
Dictionary of Church Terms | Meanings of Terms | The meaning of the word
sin
. Sin can either be known or unknown, willfully or unwillingly. And all the sacrifices of the Old Testament only forgive the sin of unintentionality, while the punishment for intentional sin, which was forbidden by the Law, was death.
And in the interpretation of Father Tadros Yacoub Malaty, he says, defining the concept of sacrifices in the Old Testament:
1. Introduction to the sin offering:
First: He reveals the purpose of this sacrifice by saying: “If a soul sins unintentionally,” it is a sacrifice offered on behalf of sinners who fall due to weakness, ignorance, or forgetfulness in one of the prohibitions, disobeying the Lord’s orders and commandments, but not out of stubbornness or deliberate resistance. That is, intentional sins, such as murder or adultery, do not have a sacrifice for forgiveness at all! Except for some sins that can be corrected and returned to their owners, but intentional sins that cannot be returned to their owners, there is no sacrifice to atone for them except repentance from them and alms, as we have proven. In addition, they used to eat these sacrifices after they were slaughtered, meaning that it is not God who eats them, for example, and His anger goes away as soon as He sees the blood! No,
God Almighty said: “Neither their meat nor their blood reaches God, but your piety reaches Him.”
This is confirmed by the fact that the sacrifices were not only animal sacrifices originally, but even flour. Does flour contain blood?
“And when anyone offers an offering as a grain offering to the Lord, his offering shall be of fine flour. He shall pour oil on it and put frankincense on it.” (Leviticus 2:1).
“And he shall take from it with his handful some of the flour of the grain offering, and its oil, and all the frankincense that is on the grain offering, and shall burn it on the altar as a sweet savour, as a memorial to the Lord.” (Leviticus 6:15).
“For I desire mercy, and not sacrifice, and the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings.” (Hosea 6:6).
“If you knew what this means, ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice,’ you would not condemn the innocent!” (Matthew 12:7).
Paul himself confirms this to answer himself, saying:
(Hebrews 10:4) For it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away sins.
That is, do not remove the sins of intentionality.
Numbers 15:22
“And if you are unaware and do not do all these commandments which the Lord spoke to Moses,
24 then if it is done secretly from the eyes of the congregation by mistake, then the whole congregation shall offer one young bull as a burnt offering, for a sweet savour to the Lord, with its grain offering and its drink offering according to the custom, and one male goat as a sin offering.
25 Then the priest shall make atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and they shall be forgiven, because it was an error. And they shall bring their offering, an offering made by fire to the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD for their error,
26 then all the congregation of the children of Israel shall be forgiven, and the stranger who sojourns among them, because it was an error for all the people.
27 “If one person sins unintentionally, he shall offer
a male goat a year old as a sin offering. 28 Then the priest shall make atonement for the person who sinned unintentionally before the Lord to make atonement for him, and he shall be forgiven. 29
For the native among the people of Israel and for the stranger who sojourns among them, there shall be one law for him who did it unintentionally.
30 But the soul that does with a high hand, whether native or foreign, despises the LORD. That soul shall be cut off from among his people,
31 because he has despised the word of the LORD and broken his commandment. That soul shall surely be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.
32 While the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day.
33 Those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole congregation.
34 They put him in custody, because it had not been announced what would be done to him.
35 Then the LORD said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death. 36 So the whole congregation brought
him out of the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died, just as the Lord had commanded Moses.
That is why Paul said that the punishment for intentional sin was death, not sacrifice:
(Hebrews 10:28) Whoever has broken the law of Moses shall die without mercy on the witness of two or three witnesses.
(Leviticus 16:29) “And it shall be a perpetual statute for you: In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and you shall do no work, whether the native-born or the stranger who sojourns among you.
30 For on this day atonement shall be made for you, to cleanse you; from all your sins before the Lord you shall be clean.”
This text has been explained in previous texts that what is meant is sins of omission
, but the question that arises here is:
Did animal sacrifices end after the crucifixion of Christ?
We read the thunderbolt:
Paul and the disciples were still offering sacrifices and offerings after the alleged crucifixion after Christ:
Acts 21:26
Then Paul took the men the next day, purified himself with them, and went into the temple, declaring that the days of purification were complete, until a gift was offered for each one of them.
So animal sacrifices still existed even after the alleged crucifixion!
Did Jesus abolish the sacrifices or offerings or did he order them??
Matthew 5:23
If you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you,
24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.
This means that the doctrine of crucifixion, redemption, and the abolition of sacrifices has nothing to do with Christ at all!!
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But this sacrifice was eaten and distributed to the poor as alms:
Leviticus 19:
6 On the day you slaughter it it may be eaten, and on the next day it may be eaten. And the surplus until the third day will be burned in the fire.
This is the real reason for forgiveness, that you give charity to the poor, and charity makes God forgive the sin after repentance for it:
Allah the Almighty said: “Neither their meat nor their blood reaches Allah, but what reaches Him is your piety.
” Surah Al-Hajj 37
One last and important point:
Are the prophets and the righteous who repented in hell before Jesus? Or in the kingdom?
"And our brothers endured suffering for a while, and they obtained eternal life, and they are in the covenant of God. But as for you, the punishment you deserved in your pride will come upon you by the judgment of God." (2 Macc 7:36).
Eternal life in the Old Testament without crucifixion and without sorrow! What is the benefit of crucifixion?!
We read a little while ago in the book of Ezekiel and elsewhere that the repentant entered eternal life in many texts! Also in the New Testament:
Matthew 11
11 Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force.
How since the days of John were there people who entered the kingdom without crucifixion and redemption?
Likewise, Abraham entered heaven, as evidenced by the fact that the rich man who was in the fire was looking up at Abraham and Lazarus, the plagues.
Luke 16:22
Then the poor man died, and the angels carried him to Abraham’s bosom. 23 And in
Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and saw
Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried out, and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 Then Abraham said, “Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus his bad things; and now he is comforted, while you are in agony.
26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who would cross from here to you cannot, nor can those who come from there cross over to us.
In the Good News English translation
25. But Abraham said, 'Remember, my son, that in your lifetime you were given all the good things, while Lazarus got all the bad things. But now he is enjoying himself here, while you are in pain.'
Note: Now he
is enjoying himself here.
Is hell a place of bliss?
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Despite these clear texts, they insisted and said that all humans, even the prophets or even those who repented from sins in the Old Testament, entered hell or the abyss, and that the first person to enter paradise or the kingdom was the thief crucified on the right hand of Jesus,
to whom Jesus said: Today you will be with me in paradise. Luke 23:43
Is there evidence for this from the Old Testament that all the prophets and righteous people and all humans entered the abyss or hell even if they repented? They cite some texts:
(Zechariah 9:11) And as for you also, by the blood of your covenant I have released your prisoners from the waterless pit.
(Zechariah 9:12) Return to the stronghold, you prisoners of hope; even today I declare that I will restore to you double.
This text has nothing to do with hell, according to the testimony of Christian commentators themselves, nor the Jewish interpretation. We read the interpretation of Father Antonius Fikry, who says:
The Jewish farmers used to dig a well in the rocks to fill it with rainwater, and when the rain stopped, this well would become dry. The well would usually turn into a place to escape from enemies during wars, as if the prophet saw the people fleeing in these wells.
Of course, suddenly he contradicted himself and said:
These wells refer to hell without the water of eternal life, in order to distort the meaning of the text and bring it down and project it onto Jesus!
https://st-takla.org/…/Tafseer-Sefr-Zakaria__01-Chapter-09.…
Also, in the interpretation of Father Tadros Yacoub,
Israel as a group of farmers, each group of them had dug a well for themselves among the rocks until the time of rain would fill it with water. When the time of captivity came and they entered a state of terror, they fled from the enemies to the well that had no water, and they became captives there.
https://st-takla.org/…/Tafseer-Sefr-Zakaria__01-Chapter-09.…
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The second evidence is the words of the Prophet Jacob when they came to console him for his son the Prophet Joseph, whom he thought had been killed:
But he refused to be comforted and said, “I will go down to my son mourning into the grave.”
Their basis for their evidence is this text: Our master Jacob was a prophet and his son Joseph was an innocent child and they will go down to the grave which is hell!! The answer to this evidence is: This statement is not true, why?
Because according to the Hebrew text itself, the word is not the grave at all, but rather it is written: the grave or the soil or the hole which in English is:
grave.
This is clear in all the rest of the translations except for the fraudulent Protestant Van Dyck which distorted it to the grave! So Jacob says that he will not accept consolation until he goes down to the grave or the graveyard with his son, meaning in local language until he dies!
The common Arabic translation and the Jesuit translation: 35. And all his sons and all his daughters rose up to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted.
"No
, " he said, "in mourning will I go down to the grave to my son. " So his father wept for him. Note: go down to the grave
That is, until he descended into the grave or cemetery or burial place or soil, which is the place where corpses or the dead are placed
. This text says that the prophet David said that he would attach his dead son to the fetus, so by the same measure David would go to heaven because the child was not guilty:
2 Samuel 12:22
Then he said, “While the child was alive, I fasted and wept, for I said, ‘Who knows? Perhaps the Lord will have mercy
on me, and the child will live.’ 23 But now he is dead, why should I fast? Can I still bring him back? I am going to him, but he will not return to me.”
The evidence that children are not guilty and will enter the kingdom:
(Luke 18:16) But Jesus called them and said, “Let the little children come
to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.” (Matthew 19:14) But Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”
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Second: Genesis 42:38
And he said, "My son shall not go down with you; for his brother is dead, and he is left alone.
If harm befalls him on the way that you go, you will bring down my gray hairs with sorrow to Sheol." Life Translation says: 38. And he said, "My son shall not go down with you; for his brother is dead, and he is left alone. If harm befalls him on the way that you go, you will bring down my gray hairs with sorrow to Sheol."
To my grave!
38. And he said, My son shall not go down with you; for his brother is dead, and he is left alone: if mischief befall him by the way in which ye go, then shall ye bring down my gray hairs with sorrow to the grave.
This is the English translation of the text.
Do you know what grave means?
with sorrow to the grave.
It means a grave as you mentioned, not hell!
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Third:
(1 Kings 2:6) Do therefore according to your wisdom, and let not his gray hairs go down peacefully to hell.
Of course, this is also the Protestant Van Dyck translation, but what if we read in the other translations?
1 Kings 2, the Life translation says:
6. So decide according to your wisdom, and let not his gray hairs die in peace.
And the Good News translation says:
6. So manage the matter according to your wisdom, and let not his gray hairs go down peacefully to the grave.
6. Do therefore according to thy wisdom, and let not his hoar head go down to the grave in peace.
grave = grave,
burial place of the dead (soil) There is no abyss at all
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Fourth: The Book of Isaiah 14
12 How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning? How are you cut down to the ground, who did weaken the nations?
13 And you said in your heart, I will ascend to the heavens; I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit on the mount of the assembly in the uttermost parts of the north.
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High.
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit.
The text originally speaks about the unbelieving king of Babylon or about Satan the devil according to the context and Christian interpretations, and not about believers but also
the translation of the good news: 15. Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. Sheol = grave = tomb ــــ Fifth: The Book of Numbers 16 speaks about sinners originally and not about the righteous, and the text also says they went down to the grave and not the abyss: 28 Then Moses said, “By this you will know that the Lord has sent me to do all these works, and that they are not of my own accord. 29 If these die as every man dies, and the calamity that every man suffers befalls them, it is not the Lord who has sent me. 30 But if the Lord creates a new thing, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them and all that belongs to them, and they go down alive to the grave, then you will know that these people have despised the Lord.” 31 And when he had finished speaking all these words, the earth opened up beneath them, 32 and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all that belonged to Korah, with all their goods. 33 And they went down alive, and all that belonged to them, into the grave; and the earth closed over them, and they perished from among the congregation. Translation of Life: 30. But if the Lord does something wonderful, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that they have, and they are buried alive in the depths of the earth, then you will know that these people have despised the Lord. Translation of the Good News: 30. But if the Lord does something wonderful, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them up with everything they have, and they go down alive to the grave, then you will know that these people have despised the Lord. Translation of the Good News : 30. But if the Lord does something that has never been done before, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them up with everything they have, and they go down alive to the grave, then you will know that they have despised the Lord . There is no word “sheol ” —— Sixth: As for the book of Job 11:8, it does not say at all that anyone has entered the grave at all: 8. He is higher than the heavens, what can you do? Deeper than the grave, what do you know? ــــ Seventh: Psalm 143:3 Life Translation: 3. The enemy persecutes me, He crushes my life. He has thrown me into a dark prison, I am like those who have died and are forgotten. Even Van Dyck says: 3. For the enemy has persecuted my soul; He has crushed my life to the ground; He has made me sit in darkness like those who have long been dead. He says like the dead in the grave, there is no light! Where is there any mention of hell or the grave at all?! ــــ Eighth: Job 10:
It speaks of the darkness of the grave and not the abyss, for the text itself says:
19. And I was as if I had never been, And was led from the womb to the grave
21. Before I go and never return, To a land of darkness and the shadow of death
22. A land of darkness like the darkness of the shadow of death, And without order, And its brightness is like darkness.
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Ninth:
Psalms 16
New International Version
10. For you will not abandon me to the grave, Nor will you let your Holy One see decay.
grave = grave
9 Therefore my heart is glad, And my spirit is glad. My body also shall dwell securely
10 For you will not leave my soul in the grave; you will not let your Holy One see corruption .
The Jesuit translation: 10 For you will not leave my soul in Hades, nor will you let your Holy One see the abyss. In the grave, not the abyss. Note that he will not see the abyss at all, that is, he will not enter it at all. ــــ Tenth: The Book of 1 Samuel 2: 6. The Lord kills and makes alive; He brings down to Sheol and brings up . He is not talking about all people, but he says that he brings people out of death: The Jesuit: 6. The Lord kills and makes alive; He brings down to Sheol and brings up from it. The Good News: 6. The Lord kills and makes alive; He falls and raises up to the realm of the dead. The LORD killeth , and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up. grave = grave ــــ Eleventh: Psalms 6: 5 For in death there is no remembrance of Thee; in Sheol who shall give thanks? It is natural that the works of the unbelievers ended in Sheol! But He did not say that the righteous who remembered God entered Sheol! ــــ Twelfth: Psalm 94 94:17 Unless the Lord had been my helper, my soul would soon have dwelt in silence. This is evidence against you that the text does not say that he will dwell in Sheol, but rather confirms that the Lord will not let him dwell in Sheol at all! But the text originally speaks about the grave and not Sheol: Life Translation: 17. If the Lord had not been my helper, my soul would have dwelt in the grave. Jesuit Translation: 17. If the Lord had not been my helper, my soul would soon have dwelt in silence. The text speaks about the enemies of the Prophet David who wanted to kill him, but God saved him from being killed and descending into the grave according to the context: 3. How long, O Lord, how long will the sinners gloat? 4. They continue to speak insolently. All the workers of iniquity will boast. 16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? Who will stand for me against the workers of iniquity? 17 Unless the LORD had been my helper, My soul would soon have dwelt in silence.
21. They swarm against the soul of the righteous, And condemn innocent blood.
22. Yet the LORD has been my stronghold, And my God the rock of my refuge .
23. He will return their iniquity upon them, And will consume them in their wickedness; The LORD our God will consume them.
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13.
Isaiah 28:15
For you have said, “We have made a covenant with death, And have made a pact with Sheol. "When the sweeping scourge passes by, it will not come upon us, for we have made lies our refuge and have hidden ourselves in deceit."
He is talking about a corrupt people, not about righteous people, as the verses before him say:
7. And these also went astray through wine and strayed through strong drink: The priest and the prophet went astray through strong drink and drowned in wine. They went astray from strong drink, strayed in vision, and staggered in decision-making.
8. All the tables were filled with filthy vomit, so that there was no room left. !
Are the prophets and the righteous who repented in hell before Jesus? Or in the kingdom?
"And our brothers endured suffering for a while, and they obtained eternal life, and they are in the covenant of God. But as for you, the punishment you deserved in your pride will come upon you by the judgment of God." (2 Macc 7:36).
Eternal life in the Old Testament without crucifixion and without sorrow! What is the benefit of crucifixion?!
We read a little while ago in the book of Ezekiel and elsewhere that the repentant entered eternal life in many texts! Also in the New Testament:
Matthew 11
11 Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force.
How since the days of John were there people who entered the kingdom without crucifixion and redemption?
Likewise, Abraham entered heaven, as evidenced by the fact that the rich man who was in the fire was looking up at Abraham and Lazarus, the plagues.
Luke 16:22
Then the poor man died, and the angels carried him to Abraham’s bosom. 23 And in
Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and saw
Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried out, and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 Then Abraham said, “Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus his bad things; and now he is comforted, while you are in agony.
26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who would cross from here to you cannot, nor can those who come from there cross over to us.
In the Good News English translation
25. But Abraham said, 'Remember, my son, that in your lifetime you were given all the good things, while Lazarus got all the bad things. But now he is enjoying himself here, while you are in pain.'
Note: Now he
is enjoying himself here.
Is hell a place of bliss?
...
Despite these clear texts, they insisted and said that all humans, even the prophets or even those who repented from sins in the Old Testament, entered hell or the abyss, and that the first person to enter paradise or the kingdom was the thief crucified on the right hand of Jesus,
to whom Jesus said: Today you will be with me in paradise. Luke 23:43
Is there evidence for this from the Old Testament that all the prophets and righteous people and all humans entered the abyss or hell even if they repented? They cite some texts:
(Zechariah 9:11) And as for you also, by the blood of your covenant I have released your prisoners from the waterless pit.
(Zechariah 9:12) Return to the stronghold, you prisoners of hope; even today I declare that I will restore to you double.
This text has nothing to do with hell, according to the testimony of Christian commentators themselves, nor the Jewish interpretation. We read the interpretation of Father Antonius Fikry, who says:
The Jewish farmers used to dig a well in the rocks to fill it with rainwater, and when the rain stopped, this well would become dry. The well would usually turn into a place to escape from enemies during wars, as if the prophet saw the people fleeing in these wells.
Of course, suddenly he contradicted himself and said:
These wells refer to hell without the water of eternal life, in order to distort the meaning of the text and bring it down and project it onto Jesus!
https://st-takla.org/…/Tafseer-Sefr-Zakaria__01-Chapter-09.…
Also, in the interpretation of Father Tadros Yacoub,
Israel as a group of farmers, each group of them had dug a well for themselves among the rocks until the time of rain would fill it with water. When the time of captivity came and they entered a state of terror, they fled from the enemies to the well that had no water, and they became captives there.
https://st-takla.org/…/Tafseer-Sefr-Zakaria__01-Chapter-09.…
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The second evidence is the words of the Prophet Jacob when they came to console him for his son the Prophet Joseph, whom he thought had been killed:
But he refused to be comforted and said, “I will go down to my son mourning into the grave.”
Their basis for their evidence is this text: Our master Jacob was a prophet and his son Joseph was an innocent child and they will go down to the grave which is hell!! The answer to this evidence is: This statement is not true, why?
Because according to the Hebrew text itself, the word is not the grave at all, but rather it is written: the grave or the soil or the hole which in English is:
grave.
This is clear in all the rest of the translations except for the fraudulent Protestant Van Dyck which distorted it to the grave! So Jacob says that he will not accept consolation until he goes down to the grave or the graveyard with his son, meaning in local language until he dies!
The common Arabic translation and the Jesuit translation: 35. And all his sons and all his daughters rose up to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted.
"No
, " he said, "in mourning will I go down to the grave to my son. " So his father wept for him. Note: go down to the grave
That is, until he descended into the grave or cemetery or burial place or soil, which is the place where corpses or the dead are placed
. This text says that the prophet David said that he would attach his dead son to the fetus, so by the same measure David would go to heaven because the child was not guilty:
2 Samuel 12:22
Then he said, “While the child was alive, I fasted and wept, for I said, ‘Who knows? Perhaps the Lord will have mercy
on me, and the child will live.’ 23 But now he is dead, why should I fast? Can I still bring him back? I am going to him, but he will not return to me.”
The evidence that children are not guilty and will enter the kingdom:
(Luke 18:16) But Jesus called them and said, “Let the little children come
to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.” (Matthew 19:14) But Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”
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Second: Genesis 42:38
And he said, "My son shall not go down with you; for his brother is dead, and he is left alone.
If harm befalls him on the way that you go, you will bring down my gray hairs with sorrow to Sheol." Life Translation says: 38. And he said, "My son shall not go down with you; for his brother is dead, and he is left alone. If harm befalls him on the way that you go, you will bring down my gray hairs with sorrow to Sheol."
To my grave!
38. And he said, My son shall not go down with you; for his brother is dead, and he is left alone: if mischief befall him by the way in which ye go, then shall ye bring down my gray hairs with sorrow to the grave.
This is the English translation of the text.
Do you know what grave means?
with sorrow to the grave.
It means a grave as you mentioned, not hell!
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Third:
(1 Kings 2:6) Do therefore according to your wisdom, and let not his gray hairs go down peacefully to hell.
Of course, this is also the Protestant Van Dyck translation, but what if we read in the other translations?
1 Kings 2, the Life translation says:
6. So decide according to your wisdom, and let not his gray hairs die in peace.
And the Good News translation says:
6. So manage the matter according to your wisdom, and let not his gray hairs go down peacefully to the grave.
6. Do therefore according to thy wisdom, and let not his hoar head go down to the grave in peace.
grave = grave,
burial place of the dead (soil) There is no abyss at all
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Fourth: The Book of Isaiah 14
12 How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning? How are you cut down to the ground, who did weaken the nations?
13 And you said in your heart, I will ascend to the heavens; I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit on the mount of the assembly in the uttermost parts of the north.
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High.
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit.
The text originally speaks about the unbelieving king of Babylon or about Satan the devil according to the context and Christian interpretations, and not about believers but also
the translation of the good news: 15. Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. Sheol = grave = tomb ــــ Fifth: The Book of Numbers 16 speaks about sinners originally and not about the righteous, and the text also says they went down to the grave and not the abyss: 28 Then Moses said, “By this you will know that the Lord has sent me to do all these works, and that they are not of my own accord. 29 If these die as every man dies, and the calamity that every man suffers befalls them, it is not the Lord who has sent me. 30 But if the Lord creates a new thing, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them and all that belongs to them, and they go down alive to the grave, then you will know that these people have despised the Lord.” 31 And when he had finished speaking all these words, the earth opened up beneath them, 32 and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all that belonged to Korah, with all their goods. 33 And they went down alive, and all that belonged to them, into the grave; and the earth closed over them, and they perished from among the congregation. Translation of Life: 30. But if the Lord does something wonderful, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that they have, and they are buried alive in the depths of the earth, then you will know that these people have despised the Lord. Translation of the Good News: 30. But if the Lord does something wonderful, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them up with everything they have, and they go down alive to the grave, then you will know that these people have despised the Lord. Translation of the Good News : 30. But if the Lord does something that has never been done before, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them up with everything they have, and they go down alive to the grave, then you will know that they have despised the Lord . There is no word “sheol ” —— Sixth: As for the book of Job 11:8, it does not say at all that anyone has entered the grave at all: 8. He is higher than the heavens, what can you do? Deeper than the grave, what do you know? ــــ Seventh: Psalm 143:3 Life Translation: 3. The enemy persecutes me, He crushes my life. He has thrown me into a dark prison, I am like those who have died and are forgotten. Even Van Dyck says: 3. For the enemy has persecuted my soul; He has crushed my life to the ground; He has made me sit in darkness like those who have long been dead. He says like the dead in the grave, there is no light! Where is there any mention of hell or the grave at all?! ــــ Eighth: Job 10:
It speaks of the darkness of the grave and not the abyss, for the text itself says:
19. And I was as if I had never been, And was led from the womb to the grave
21. Before I go and never return, To a land of darkness and the shadow of death
22. A land of darkness like the darkness of the shadow of death, And without order, And its brightness is like darkness.
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Ninth:
Psalms 16
New International Version
10. For you will not abandon me to the grave, Nor will you let your Holy One see decay.
grave = grave
9 Therefore my heart is glad, And my spirit is glad. My body also shall dwell securely
10 For you will not leave my soul in the grave; you will not let your Holy One see corruption .
The Jesuit translation: 10 For you will not leave my soul in Hades, nor will you let your Holy One see the abyss. In the grave, not the abyss. Note that he will not see the abyss at all, that is, he will not enter it at all. ــــ Tenth: The Book of 1 Samuel 2: 6. The Lord kills and makes alive; He brings down to Sheol and brings up . He is not talking about all people, but he says that he brings people out of death: The Jesuit: 6. The Lord kills and makes alive; He brings down to Sheol and brings up from it. The Good News: 6. The Lord kills and makes alive; He falls and raises up to the realm of the dead. The LORD killeth , and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up. grave = grave ــــ Eleventh: Psalms 6: 5 For in death there is no remembrance of Thee; in Sheol who shall give thanks? It is natural that the works of the unbelievers ended in Sheol! But He did not say that the righteous who remembered God entered Sheol! ــــ Twelfth: Psalm 94 94:17 Unless the Lord had been my helper, my soul would soon have dwelt in silence. This is evidence against you that the text does not say that he will dwell in Sheol, but rather confirms that the Lord will not let him dwell in Sheol at all! But the text originally speaks about the grave and not Sheol: Life Translation: 17. If the Lord had not been my helper, my soul would have dwelt in the grave. Jesuit Translation: 17. If the Lord had not been my helper, my soul would soon have dwelt in silence. The text speaks about the enemies of the Prophet David who wanted to kill him, but God saved him from being killed and descending into the grave according to the context: 3. How long, O Lord, how long will the sinners gloat? 4. They continue to speak insolently. All the workers of iniquity will boast. 16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? Who will stand for me against the workers of iniquity? 17 Unless the LORD had been my helper, My soul would soon have dwelt in silence.
21. They swarm against the soul of the righteous, And condemn innocent blood.
22. Yet the LORD has been my stronghold, And my God the rock of my refuge .
23. He will return their iniquity upon them, And will consume them in their wickedness; The LORD our God will consume them.
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Isaiah 28:15
For you have said, “We have made a covenant with death, And have made a pact with Sheol. "When the sweeping scourge passes by, it will not come upon us, for we have made lies our refuge and have hidden ourselves in deceit."
He is talking about a corrupt people, not about righteous people, as the verses before him say:
7. And these also went astray through wine and strayed through strong drink: The priest and the prophet went astray through strong drink and drowned in wine. They went astray from strong drink, strayed in vision, and staggered in decision-making.
8. All the tables were filled with filthy vomit, so that there was no room left. !
The greatest evidence that the prophets were entering the kingdom and not hell is from the mouth of Jesus himself:
“But Jesus called them and said, ‘Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for of such belongs the kingdom of God.’” (Luke 18:16).
In the Gospel of Luke 16, it says that the rich man died and entered hell to be tormented, but Lazarus died and ascended to Abraham’s bosom and is being comforted or enjoying himself!
24 Then he cried and said, “Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.”
25 Then Abraham said, “Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, but likewise Lazarus his bad things; and now he is comforted, while you are in agony. Lazarus is
in Abraham’s bosom enjoying himself and drinking water, while at the end of the day the rich and powerful are tormented.” How can the two be equal, sinners, deviated, corrupted, and waiting for the hope of the cross in hell??
Therefore, Jesus did not want to be crucified in the first place, so he called on God to save him from crucifixion, and the prayer of the prophets is answered:
(Gospel of Luke 22:42) saying: “Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.”
39 Then he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, “O my Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.”
Why did Christ not want to be crucified? Simply because God is far from being unjust. God is just and does not hold a righteous person responsible for the sin of anyone else. This principle is established in the Bible when it says:
Genesis 18:23
Then Abraham came forward and said, “Will you also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
25 Far be it from you to do such a thing, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be like the wicked. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of the whole earth do justice?”
Will not the Judge of the whole earth do justice and curse the righteous, as Paul claimed?
Thus, there is not a single logical biblical reason for the cross or the crucifixion and killing of God, and we challenge them to bring us a single logical reason for the crucifixion and killing of their idol!
Did the Torah predict the killing of the awaited Messiah? The disciples themselves testify that it never predicted that:
First:
Luke 9:20
Then he said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Peter answered and said, “The Christ of God!”
How did Peter know that Jesus is the Messiah?
Of course, from the Torah, right?
If he knew from the Torah that the Messiah would be killed and that he would come for this mission, how did Peter object to the killing?
Matthew 16:22
Then Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him, saying, “Far be it, Lord! This shall not be to you!”
Rather, all the disciples did not know that the Torah says that Christ will be killed
(John 20:9) because they did not yet know the Scripture: that he must rise from the dead.
Conclusion:
Adam sinned intentionally, not unintentionally, because he listened to the serpent’s words. Therefore, he did not need sacrifices at all, because there is no sacrifice for intentional sins. Rather, repentance alone is sufficient for them. And by consensus, Adam actually repented, otherwise how could he have received Jesus’ alleged redemption without repentance?!
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“But Jesus called them and said, ‘Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for of such belongs the kingdom of God.’” (Luke 18:16).
In the Gospel of Luke 16, it says that the rich man died and entered hell to be tormented, but Lazarus died and ascended to Abraham’s bosom and is being comforted or enjoying himself!
24 Then he cried and said, “Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.”
25 Then Abraham said, “Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, but likewise Lazarus his bad things; and now he is comforted, while you are in agony. Lazarus is
in Abraham’s bosom enjoying himself and drinking water, while at the end of the day the rich and powerful are tormented.” How can the two be equal, sinners, deviated, corrupted, and waiting for the hope of the cross in hell??
Therefore, Jesus did not want to be crucified in the first place, so he called on God to save him from crucifixion, and the prayer of the prophets is answered:
(Gospel of Luke 22:42) saying: “Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.”
39 Then he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, “O my Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.”
Why did Christ not want to be crucified? Simply because God is far from being unjust. God is just and does not hold a righteous person responsible for the sin of anyone else. This principle is established in the Bible when it says:
Genesis 18:23
Then Abraham came forward and said, “Will you also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
25 Far be it from you to do such a thing, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be like the wicked. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of the whole earth do justice?”
Will not the Judge of the whole earth do justice and curse the righteous, as Paul claimed?
Thus, there is not a single logical biblical reason for the cross or the crucifixion and killing of God, and we challenge them to bring us a single logical reason for the crucifixion and killing of their idol!
Did the Torah predict the killing of the awaited Messiah? The disciples themselves testify that it never predicted that:
First:
Luke 9:20
Then he said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Peter answered and said, “The Christ of God!”
How did Peter know that Jesus is the Messiah?
Of course, from the Torah, right?
If he knew from the Torah that the Messiah would be killed and that he would come for this mission, how did Peter object to the killing?
Matthew 16:22
Then Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him, saying, “Far be it, Lord! This shall not be to you!”
Rather, all the disciples did not know that the Torah says that Christ will be killed
(John 20:9) because they did not yet know the Scripture: that he must rise from the dead.
Conclusion:
Adam sinned intentionally, not unintentionally, because he listened to the serpent’s words. Therefore, he did not need sacrifices at all, because there is no sacrifice for intentional sins. Rather, repentance alone is sufficient for them. And by consensus, Adam actually repented, otherwise how could he have received Jesus’ alleged redemption without repentance?!
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