the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are a large bowl of water.
Let us suppose that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are a large vessel of water, and in this state of their union they are called
God. Let us suppose that part of this water (God or the divinity) was poured into another vessel (the body of Christ) and part of it was poured into another vessel (the Holy Spirit). Doesn't this example explain the doctrine of the Trinity logically? But there is a slight difference between water and God, which is that the water decreases, but God does not.
All that differs between them is the vessels (bodies), while the divinity is one
and finished
. Is there anyone who can answer, brothers?
May Allah reward you a thousand times. Allah is the Truth, the One Who says:
“ And they attribute to Allah that which they dislike, and their tongues describe falsely that they will have the best. There is no doubt that they will have the Fire, and that they are transgressors. By Allah, We did indeed send to nations before you, but Satan made their deeds pleasing to them, so he is their protector today, and they will have a painful punishment. And We have not sent down to you the Book except that you may make clear to them that which you used to do.” They differed about it, and guidance and mercy for a people who believe.
The brother who asked the question says, “Abdul-Tathleeth,” “Let us suppose that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are a large vessel of water, and in this state of their union they are called God. Let us suppose that part of this water (God or the Divinity) was poured into another vessel (the body of Christ) and part of it was poured into another vessel (the Holy Spirit). Doesn’t this example logically explain the doctrine of the Trinity? But there is a simple difference between water and God, which is that water decreases, but God does not. All that differed between them is the vessels (bodies), but the Divinity is one.” And I respond to him by saying, “God is truthful when He says about you and your likes, ‘And when they meet those who believe, they say, “We believe.” But when they are alone with their devils, they say, “Indeed, we are with you; we are only Mockers. God mocks them and prolongs their transgression while they wander blindly. " Then I continued, asking [u], you Christians do not believe in one God, but in three gods.... And I ask you, worshippers of the Trinity, what about the Son who was baptized in the Jordan River by John the Baptist "the second hypostasis"... and the dove of the Holy Spirit that was above his head while he was in the river "the third hypostasis"... and the Father about whom the Holy Book said "For does God really dwell on the earth?... Behold, the heavens and the heavens of heavens cannot contain you"... and they heard his voice saying "This is my only Son, in whom I am well pleased." O worshipper of the Trinity, we are faced with three separate, disparate personalities... You consider them one God... How do I not know?
All that differs between them is the vessels (bodies), while the divinity is one
and finished
. Is there anyone who can answer, brothers?
May Allah reward you a thousand times. Allah is the Truth, the One Who says:
“ And they attribute to Allah that which they dislike, and their tongues describe falsely that they will have the best. There is no doubt that they will have the Fire, and that they are transgressors. By Allah, We did indeed send to nations before you, but Satan made their deeds pleasing to them, so he is their protector today, and they will have a painful punishment. And We have not sent down to you the Book except that you may make clear to them that which you used to do.” They differed about it, and guidance and mercy for a people who believe.
The brother who asked the question says, “Abdul-Tathleeth,” “Let us suppose that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are a large vessel of water, and in this state of their union they are called God. Let us suppose that part of this water (God or the Divinity) was poured into another vessel (the body of Christ) and part of it was poured into another vessel (the Holy Spirit). Doesn’t this example logically explain the doctrine of the Trinity? But there is a simple difference between water and God, which is that water decreases, but God does not. All that differed between them is the vessels (bodies), but the Divinity is one.” And I respond to him by saying, “God is truthful when He says about you and your likes, ‘And when they meet those who believe, they say, “We believe.” But when they are alone with their devils, they say, “Indeed, we are with you; we are only Mockers. God mocks them and prolongs their transgression while they wander blindly. " Then I continued, asking [u], you Christians do not believe in one God, but in three gods.... And I ask you, worshippers of the Trinity, what about the Son who was baptized in the Jordan River by John the Baptist "the second hypostasis"... and the dove of the Holy Spirit that was above his head while he was in the river "the third hypostasis"... and the Father about whom the Holy Book said "For does God really dwell on the earth?... Behold, the heavens and the heavens of heavens cannot contain you"... and they heard his voice saying "This is my only Son, in whom I am well pleased." O worshipper of the Trinity, we are faced with three separate, disparate personalities... You consider them one God... How do I not know?
A father in heaven, a son in the river, and a Holy Spirit like a dove above the river... Aren't they three different personalities?
The Bible confirmed that the Son Jesus is a servant of the Father. In 1 Corinthians 8:6, the Apostle Paul says, “But to us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we are for Him.”
This is from the words of John the Theologian in Revelation 1:6, “ And has made us kings and priests to His God and Father , to Him [be] glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. That is, the Father is the God of the Son, according to the testimony of John the Theologian. So Christ has God and He is God. So the Son is a servant and God is His God. They are never equal. Paul also says in Ephesians 1:17, “That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ” that is, the God of our teacher Jesus, “the Father of glory” might give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him.” This is my confirmation of the meaning of the word Lord from the Gospel of John 1:38, “And Jesus turned and saw them following, and said to them, What do you seek? They said to him, “ Rabbi” (which means, Teacher), where are you staying? If the Father, the "first person" ..... is the God of the Son, the "second person" ..... and that is from the Holy Bible ..... how can you come and say that they are one in essence .... is not the Father the God of the Son?!!!! Then, do you not say, O Christians, that in this coming verse, God is speaking about Christ, the son of Mary, in the Book of Isaiah 42:1 "Behold, my servant; I uphold him" .. So Christ, the son of Mary, is a servant of God's servants .... and with the testimony of the Holy Bible. We come to the Holy Spirit, whom you made a person in the Trinity, it is known from Acts 15:8 that God is the one who gives the Holy Spirit "And God, who knows the hearts, bore witness to them, giving them the Holy Spirit, just as he also did to us" God is the active giver ..... and the Holy Spirit is the given "the passive" ..... the active is stronger than the passive ..... so they are not the same. Also in Acts 5:32 God is the one who gives the Holy Spirit "And we are His witnesses of these things, and the Holy Spirit also ..... whom God has given to those who obey Him"Acts 10:38 Jesus of Nazareth ... how God anointed him .... with the Holy Spirit and with power" ... God anoints with the Holy Spirit .... God is the anointed "the subject" ..... and the Holy Spirit is the anointed "the second object" ..... the subject "God" is stronger than the first object which is Jesus ..... and stronger than the second object which is the Holy Spirit ..... so they are not the same. Do not say that the Trinity is like water (the Father) in two vessels (the Son and the Holy Spirit) because in your words we are dealing with three different things???? Water and two vessels???? Then wasn't the Son's vessel broken??? That means he died???? So the water must have come out of it .... and that is why he urinated on the cross??? ..... So the Trinity was broken and it must be written on it "subject to breakage" Then God says in the Bible "To whom will you liken me And you are equal to me... He also says, “There is no one like God.” This is Christ, son of Mary, after his ascension to heaven... a servant of God.
In Revelation 3:11-14, “Behold, I come quickly. Hold fast what you have, lest anyone take your crown. He who overcomes will be made a pillar in the temple of God, and he will go no more out. And I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my new name. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, ‘These things says the Amen, the faithful and true witness,
the beginning of God’s creation. Christ is the beginning of God’s creation.’” .. and God is his God.
Paul says that Jesus is a creature in 1 Corinthians 1:15, “the firstborn of all creation.” So Jesus is a creature.
Indeed, Allah is the Truth
when He says: “Indeed, they have disbelieved who say, ‘Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary.’ And the Messiah said, ‘O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’ Indeed, whoever associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers. Indeed, they have disbelieved who say, ‘Allah is the third of three.’ And there is no god except one God. And if they do not associate partners with Allah, Allah will surely make them disbelieve.” And if they desist from what they say, a painful punishment will surely touch those who disbelieve among them. Will they not then repent to Allah and ask His forgiveness? And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. The Messiah, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a woman of truth. They both used to eat their food. See how We make clear to them the verses; then see how they are deluded. Say, "Do you worship besides Allah that which you do not know?" He has no power to harm you or to benefit you, and Allah is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing. Al- Fituri:
So they are not one and they are not in one vessel because there is someone who created and the law of faith says that he was born and that he is a true God from a true God. (Focus on whom).
Was their god incomplete before he was created, who is alleged to be a god?
Then doesn’t this show us the division,
that is, that their god was divided into three.
The question is, do these three have the same attributes? If yes,
then they are three complete and not separate...and this confirms multiplicity and polytheism.
If no, then there is a deficiency in each one of them, and Allah must be absolved of this.
For example, if the son took the attribute of reason and mercy , then
the father is not merciful and not rational.
If the Holy Spirit is life,
then the father is dead and the son is dead,
then there is neither father nor son.
So we have an incomplete Holy Spirit that possesses nothing but life, and it is not merciful and not rational, so it is insane.
Failed attempts,
it is illogical, it is illogical.
It is enough what one of the scholars said in one of his theories
that your conclusion that three units equal one unit is an illogical, unscientific, and unreasonable conclusion,
or that you are more afraid and obligated than to admit that you worship three gods... then you become a pagan infidel,
because paganism and polytheism are
two sides of the same coin, or as he said.
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